Saturday, February 6, 2010

Is it true that alot of the facts pertaining to Jesus were used before he has born?

Like born to a virgin, three kings, dec 25th, etc. etc.





If this is documented (such as in 3000 or more year old Egyptian writings about the Sun God), is it just a coincidence?Is it true that alot of the facts pertaining to Jesus were used before he has born?
During the first century, over 200 religions came (and mostly went0 in the Roman Empire. By the year 300 or so, the two remaining contenders were Christianity, and Mithrasism. Both of these were enormously popular, and so they stole from each other in an effort to win converts.





Jesus (whose real name was Joshua, Yosua, Yoshi, or Josiah) was born in early Summer, but Mithra was born on the Winter Solstice, so the Christians moved Yoshi's birthday to Dec 25th (not quite the same, but close enough). Mithra died and rose from the dead, ditto Josy, and both on (or about) the Spring Equinox. Both were born humbly, in a cave (or barn) attended by farm animals. Both are always portrayed with beams of light emanating from them.





Both births were fortold in ancient writings, both were the son of gods, both were attended by 'angelic creatures,'; both births were shown by stars, magicians (magi) came from far and wide to see the miracle babies, there's dozens more. The Christians just co-opted the pagan, or other deities' holidays and legends to fit their god.Is it true that alot of the facts pertaining to Jesus were used before he has born?
No, it is not true. What proof do we have that those ';facts'; pertaining to ';Jesus'; were true?





If it is true, then perhaps someone can list those documents outside the bible which offer evidence of its adherance to the truth.
No. Many Middle Eastern religions used the same ';facts';
Born to a virgin, three kings, in Bethlehem, etc, yes, they were fortold in the Old Testament. Much of it is made up about Jesus in the New Testament. Why? Who knows? The people who reported on Jesus' life and miracles were absolutely sure that he was the messiah. They most likely fudged the facts of his birth to fit the prophecies. Many modern Christians believe that you should not look at the Bible literally. It's the message and not the unlikely story that makes the Bible true. A wonderful book you should read is ';The Heart of Christianity.'; i can't think of the author's name right now. But it talks about the Bible being true, as in it reflects the humanity of people and what they go through and gives lessons on how a truly Christian person should act.
also included is the prophesy that not one bone on his body was broken, he was crucified;which at the time it was written was not the style of execution used, also no bones would be broken in his body , (significant because it was normal that the roman soldiers would do just that to speed up the death by asphyixiation when someone was crucified) and they would cast lots for his clothes.. The very specifics are all over Daniel and Isaiah. Judaism did borrow from other religions so christianity does have traces of other religions in it (pagan ...it is easter this sunday...) but the fulfillment of the prophesies by christ were to numerous to be ruled out as coincidence.
I've read that quite a few details in the life story of Jeebus closely mirror those of a Persian deity named Mithras.





But you'll have to confirm or discredit that for yourself.

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